Gelkis vs Magram in Forever: quick facts
The choice comes up in Desolace at around level 35. Gaining reputation with one clan lowers your standing with the other, so in practice you commit to one side. These details come from Wowhead's Forever guide, published November 11, 2026.
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|---|---|---|
| Favoured professions | Enchanting, Leatherworking, Tailoring | Alchemy, Blacksmithing, Engineering |
| Recipes as the chosen clan | Honored, 15 Carved Centaur Totems | Honored, 15 Carved Centaur Totems |
| Recipes from the opposing clan | Exalted, 60 Carved Centaur Totems | Exalted, 60 Carved Centaur Totems |
| Bonus at Friendly | One recipe per favoured profession from a quest | One recipe per favoured profession from a quest |
- Total recipes: 12, two for each of the six crafting professions.
- Where: Desolace, in the mid-30s leveling band.
- Can you lock yourself out? No. Every recipe stays obtainable, but the off-clan route costs four times the totems and needs Exalted.
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Pick the clan that favours your main crafting profession. If you are a Tailor, an Enchanter or a Leatherworker, Gelkis gets you both recipes at Honored. Alchemists, Blacksmiths and Engineers should side with Magram for the same reason.
If your two crafting professions are split across the clans, say Tailoring and Alchemy, let the profession you plan to level first decide. You get that one cheaply at Honored. The other one goes on the Exalted list for later.
What if I only have gathering professions?
The clan recipes only cover the six crafting professions. Herbalism, Mining and Skinning get nothing from either clan. If you only gather, choose by whichever crafting profession you might pick up on an alt or later on this character, or just side with the clan whose quests suit your route.
Because Legacy points come from tradeskill milestones, many players level a crafter on a second character anyway. In that case it can pay to send each character to a different clan.
Can I get the other clan's recipes later?
Yes, but it is the long road. The opposing clan sells its recipes only at Exalted, and each one costs 60 Carved Centaur Totems instead of 15. Since your work for one clan has been lowering your standing with the other, reaching Exalted with the second clan means a real grind after you are done with the first.
How does this connect to Shen'dralas?
Shen'dralas is Forever's new hidden region between Mulgore and Desolace, and Blizzard ties it to the Shen'dralar, Dire Maul and the centaur tribes. The Gelkis and Magram feud is part of that expanded centaur storyline. Blizzard has not published any link between your clan choice and Shen'dralas rewards, so don't pick a clan expecting one.
Does the choice affect leveling speed?
Not much. The real cost is the totems and reputation, not lost XP, since both clans give you quests to work on in Desolace. What matters most is not wasting turn-ins on the side you will not use.
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Frequently asked questions
Can you get both Gelkis and Magram recipes in WoW: Forever?
Yes. All 12 centaur recipes are obtainable whichever clan you side with. Your chosen clan sells its favoured recipes at Honored for 15 Carved Centaur Totems each. The opposing clan only sells at Exalted, and each recipe costs 60 totems, so getting both sets takes a long reputation grind.
Which professions does the Gelkis clan favour in Forever?
Gelkis favours Enchanting, Leatherworking and Tailoring. Siding with them gets you both of each profession's clan recipes at Honored standing, and one recipe per profession earlier from a quest at Friendly. Cloth, leather and enchanting crafters usually pick Gelkis.
Which professions does the Magram clan favour in Forever?
Magram favours Alchemy, Blacksmithing and Engineering. Players with those professions get both clan recipes at Honored for 15 Carved Centaur Totems each, plus one recipe per profession from a Friendly-level quest. That makes Magram the natural pick for potion, plate and gadget crafters.
At what level do you choose Gelkis or Magram?
The choice comes up in Desolace at around level 35 in WoW: Forever. From that point, reputation gained with one centaur clan lowers your standing with the other, so it is best to decide by profession before you start turning in quests.
Does gaining Gelkis reputation lower Magram reputation?
Yes. The two clans are rivals, so reputation earned with one reduces your standing with the other. That is why most players commit to one clan, then grind the second clan to Exalted only if they really need its recipes.